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Connor Faulds
Connor Faulds - 3 years ago
i honestly think there was a mental factor at play here. test with iron byron.
Station 2Station
Station 2Station - 3 years ago
"None of the old ones were any better than each other...BUT THE ONE I'M BEING PAID TO PUSH TODAY, IS A MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT!!"
Hammy135
Hammy135 - 3 years ago
I’m still playing a tm r580 and I love it.
Kellen M
Kellen M - 3 years ago
Needed to put the weights forward in M3 to be a fair test. This is misleading and the fact that you didn’t mention this is terrible for anyone that takes you at your word instead of questioning your results.
Michael West
Michael West - 3 years ago
Launch angle and carry distances would be more similar if you equally compared M1's vs M3's. Move the weights back in the M1's to make it fair.
Doug Season
Doug Season - 3 years ago
The new generation driver keep giving extra yards from previous year, should I be getting 30 to 40 yards differences between M3 vs my first every drive R9? This non sense of extra yards is driving me crazy.
Reg Vardy
Reg Vardy - 3 years ago
cough cough bollocks...basically the first two weren't sent up correct for you.
Tony Broad head
Tony Broad head - 3 years ago
Some1s been paid by t/m no other reviews have gained 10 yards gonna unscribe buddy sorry not a proper test
charles rogers
charles rogers - 3 years ago
How much did taylormade pay you??

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G L
G L - 3 years ago
You were more offline with the new driver. You apparently don’t play golf otherwise you would know accuracy is better than distance.
jeremy barr
jeremy barr - 3 years ago
Interesting that you don't show your clubhead speed,just ball speed. Either shaft was different and better suited for you or you were just swinging a couple mph faster subconsciously with the new one. It's no better or longer than either of the others. Your obviously paid by TM.
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
As mentioned in the pinned comment, we used the same shaft and weight set-up for all three drivers during the indoor launch monitor testing. The strike may have gradually improved as we found a natural groove hitting lots of shots in a row, but it's hard to definitively say if this was due to just hitting the M3 as the last of the three models, or because it just gave us more confidence through its looks and feel.
Steven Huynh
Steven Huynh - 3 years ago
as others have already stated, what a shit shill review
Curtis Polysou
Curtis Polysou - 3 years ago
If the different weight configurations don't render this test worthless, the lack of club data sure does.
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
As mentioned in the pinned comment, all three clubs were tested with the same weight set-up during the indoor launch monitor testing. They were only moved to other weight positions during our on-course testing and filming the next day to see the differences they made to real life performance.
Daly548
Daly548 - 3 years ago
You were clearly not fitted correctly for them, not a chance in hell you’ve gained 10 yards, sorry I call bullshit
Graham Stevenson
Graham Stevenson - 3 years ago
Hi , your dispersion seems to be a lot different on the m3 is that why you are gaining yards #tugginitleft
TimS
TimS - 3 years ago
Dreadful review. Both M1 drivers were set up incorrectly - too low spin. I used to trust these reviews, now I have lost my trust. Totally fake 10 yards gain, if the M1 drivers had their weights pushed back halfway it would have been fair. You have lost my trust Golf Monthly!
the1big1matt
the1big1matt - 3 years ago
Absolutely no chance that the new model adds 10 yards. No chance.
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
Hi - we have pinned a comment to this video as we have had a few similar comments to yours. Hopefully this helps explains our methodology and our thinking a bit better.
Jermane Hoowse
Jermane Hoowse - 3 years ago
no swing speed info????
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
Hi Jermane, we pinned a comment to this video as we have had a few similar comments to yours. Hopefully this helps explains our methodology and our thinking a bit better.
ian campbell
ian campbell - 3 years ago
Rory McIlroy said the difference was more about dispersion on the off centre hits because of the face changes.

I think a test with the same shaft and weights back would be an idea. I doubt there would be 10 yards difference if so. I’d hope for tighter dispersion at best which in itself would always be a bonus.

I have also seen in other you tube videos that driver distances have changed very little in 5 years . The sldr was still one of the longest TM drivers in such a test.
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
Hi Ian, thanks for your feedback. We tried to test the effects of the Twist Face on the launch monitor but couldn't come up with anything really conclusive either way. If it makes a big difference, players would probably notice it after a much longer period testing on course. We have also pinned a longer comment to this video to explain our methodology and our thinking when it comes to club testing.

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TalkyMcTalkFace
TalkyMcTalkFace - 3 years ago
Paid article by chance, people would see a vast performance I provment by learning to play and manage their game better, a you tube “300” Drive is one shot, a duffed chip is one shot and missed putt is one shot.
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
Hi - we pinned a comment to this video as we have had a few similar comments to yours. Hopefully this helps explains our methodology and our thinking a bit better.
Christopher Pompilio
Christopher Pompilio - 3 years ago
Hi Neil...It looks like you have different shafts in each. I'm curious why not use the same shaft to isolate the differences in just the head?
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
Hi Christopher - we did use exactly the same Aldila Rogue shaft in the test and the weights were all set to neutral
Daniel Stoodley
Daniel Stoodley - 3 years ago
How much are TM paying for the review?
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
Hi Daniel, we have pinned a comment to this video as we have had a few similar comments to yours. Hopefully this helps explains our methodology and our thinking a bit better.
Paul Allen
Paul Allen - 3 years ago
Why have you not shown swing speed on the data? I can't believe the ball speed has increased that much without the swing speed also increasing? Is this an independent test or an advert? If an advert you are obliged to state that.
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
Hi Paul, we have pinned a comment about our testing methodology to this video as we have had a few similar comments to yours. Thanks for your feedback and I hope the comment helps explain our process
Golf Monthly
Golf Monthly - 3 years ago
Hi all, thank you for all the comments on this video – it has been interesting for us to see the feedback, in particular the amount of scepticism there was about this test. Firstly, we did not receive any money to create this video from TaylorMade. It is true that TaylorMade, along with all of the other major golf manufacturers, do advertise with Golf Monthly – they buy space to promote their products in the form of advertising in the magazine, pre-roll on the videos on the Golf Monthly website and inventory on our site.
One other thing to clarify is that all three drivers were tested in their neutral set up. We moved the weights around after we finished the indoor, launch monitor testing to see what the effects were out on the course. Perhaps we should have moved them back for the talk through to avoid any confusion.
The methodology we use for this sort of product testing is that we hit a series of shots on a launch monitor with each club. We will delete only the really bad ones (so in this instance it would be shots that would be well wide of the fairway!), leaving in off-centre strikes and then we look at the data, trying to pick out a few noticeable trends. We don’t include strike locations for each shot because there are a host of other factors that also contribute to the result – path through impact, angle of attack, swing speed – all of which can change fractionally and make a difference to the numbers. Form our experience, the deeper you delve into the different elements of the data, the harder it can be to make a meaningful judgement about a product. And as we always try to underline, we are only ever trying to produce a guide to help inform your own testing.
Finally, it is worth reiterating that we do work closely with ALL the manufacturers. We get products presented to us before the embargo lifts so we can understand the technology and in the past we have even gone as far as to visit the R&D and testing facilities of the brands we are producing content about. Having seen at first hand the amount of work that goes into the production of new equipment – consumer testing, 3D printing, R&D testing, new material research, industrial design etc – we are perhaps more inclined to believe what the manufacturers are telling us in terms of how they expect a new product to perform. However, we genuinely believe that none of the big golf club manufacturers will bring a product to market that does not out-perform what preceded it. From generation to generation, the gains are often marginal but sometimes they are bigger and more noticeable, and when that happens during our testing, it is our job to share that with you.
In this test, we finished the hitting, compared the results and they were more noticeable. This is not to say that every golfer will see such a big gain in distance and we are not saying that the old M1s do not perform well. It may well be the case that the swings with the M3 were better but this was not a robot test. We also tried to conduct a test on TwistFace but were unable to reach any meaningful conclusion, a point we made in the video.
Anyway, we do appreciate the feedback and will continue to try to make our reviewing methodology as robust as possible, whilst appreciating that human testing is never going to be 100% full-proof. However, these videos are only ever the opinion of one tester, we would NEVER recommend anyone buys a golf club without testing it first and getting a thorough custom-fitting. Ultimately, we think the M3 is a good driver and worth testing if you are in the market for something new.
Fupa City
Fupa City - 3 years ago
156mph ball speed 13.8 launch for 2016 version. 162mph and 14 launch. Distance difference you're seeing is from getting proper spin, but that has nothing to do with the M3 being better. That has to do with the club being fitted properly. The club is built so you can move the weights around to manipulate MOI and spin. Clearly in the scenes where he holds all three, he has the T tracks weights all the way forward, and the M3 is set up in a neutral setting with one weight forward, one weight nearly all the way back. That causes more spin. He also hit them in order 2016, 2017, 2018 (note the shot counter on the left side of the ball data) without showing us the swing speed numbers (which obviously has a direct impact on ball speed). So the ball speed could just be you loosening up throughout the testing, swinging a bit harder. Even if it isn't, and the ball speed has been upped by a few mph, that can't possibly add up to 10 yards of distance. People please don't buy into this BS.
James Morrow
James Morrow - 3 years ago
Clearly some shots have been deleted. Was this because they were bad strikes? Or didn’t fit the narrative? Also the weights are set differently between the 3 drivers giving you a couple of really low spin (1300~) knuckle balls that are falling out of the air. Get the weights back and lofts adjusted and then give us a proper review of the 3 drivers
Daniel Noar
Daniel Noar - 3 years ago
Wow! Simply 6 minutes to massage taylormade's R&D. But the facts are if the M1 2016 and 2017 were adjusted in loft, weighting and shaft (FITTED!!!!!) they could easily have bridged the 10yard gap or if not surpassed the M3 results. All I can advise is to get fitted for your driver and all your clubs if you can. As every club has varying CG and attributes. Therefore will require a different set up to get the best performance.
tigergor
tigergor - 3 years ago
Good one. Now give us some real numbers like club head speed, angle of attack and smash factor. This is BS. Embarrassing really.
Martin Clark
Martin Clark - 3 years ago
Strike is king, but not shown in the test. Club head speed has also likely increased during the test as you warm up giving the M3 an unfair advantage.

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Malcolm Evans
Malcolm Evans - 3 years ago
I'm not sure this is really a like for like test as the M1s have the sliding bar forward but the M3 has the Y bar at the back. A better fit would be to increase M1 loft by a degree to raise spin and launch. I suspect the results would be more even then.
Robert Salazar
Robert Salazar - 3 years ago
Great review thank you!
Mit Mit
Mit Mit - 3 years ago
Bull crap....show strike for all clubs....no way this is happening. Consumers are more educated this is a marketing video for Taylormade. COR’s are maxed out.
Joshua Martin
Joshua Martin - 3 years ago
Use the same shaft in all three heads and then do a comparison video
for the love of tech too
for the love of tech too - 3 years ago
feck I've never had a 3 way before ;)
Jean Ferret
Jean Ferret - 3 years ago
Like Golf Digest's Hot List just look at how many pages adverts a company has in Golf Monthly and hey presto...the dog's proverbials....
Brian Moore
Brian Moore - 3 years ago
Shock horror, GM promotes a new Taylormade driver.
Tony Broad head
Tony Broad head - 3 years ago
Marketing crap he's paid by taylormade wait for crossfield guarantee #262
D
D - 3 years ago
These numbers are completely bullshit
Rob White
Rob White - 3 years ago
I ll wait for Mark Crossfield s review to come out. At least then we ll get some strike locations and numbers. Not just some paid for marketing garbage!
Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell - 3 years ago
You have the m1 weight in the front and that's not the setup if you're not getting enough spin... you can move the weight on the m1 back and get 300rpm more spin... maybe then it could test again and see if you get different numbers...
Ken Phillips
Ken Phillips - 3 years ago
You are just a Taylormade stooge!....grow up my friend and do an unbiased test!
Andy Barton
Andy Barton - 3 years ago
No clubhead speed given hmm - did you just swing faster with the Adrenalin -
Paul Bown
Paul Bown - 3 years ago
How about dispersion?
Mark Anthony Drew
Mark Anthony Drew - 3 years ago
Marketing crap again. Unsubscribe. zzzzz
andy evans
andy evans - 3 years ago
10 yards... lol gone are the days that consumers fall for such crap
Rodney Hickman
Rodney Hickman - 3 years ago
Who cares how far it goes. I would gladly give up 15 yards if I hit the fairway more often . Reviewing clubs based on distance is ridiculous
Steve Richardson
Steve Richardson - 3 years ago
I'm not sure about this.. would have preferred to see the actual strikes and setting on each club....10 yards is quite a lot
S G
S G - 3 years ago
Golf is a personal sport. Try and test clubs for yourself. Reviews are just guidelines for new clubs. 10 yards for him maybe 20 yards for you or 5 yards for me?? Get out and try them.
jscott811
jscott811 - 3 years ago
Do not trust this review. I hope Taylormade are paying you loads to straight up lie to your subscriber's. To say the new club hits further than the last one and is a great leap forward is a joke. Go back a year to your old videos and you'll see that Neil is hitter the 2017 m1 291yards average (longer than 290yards the m3 went in this test). I know golf monthly need to make money but this is bullshit lies and they know it. Couldn't care less about the average golfer. Rant over

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Howie Land
Howie Land - 3 years ago
Thanks for the test, Neil. It occurs to me that I should quit reading the comments, just as many of the commenters should quit watching the club tests. Cheers!
Stephen Ellis
Stephen Ellis - 3 years ago
andy evans
andy evans - 3 years ago
gonna unsubscribe too... fed up of bullshit stats
Bill Ryan
Bill Ryan - 3 years ago
5
Bill Ryan
Bill Ryan - 3 years ago
Shame on you
Bill Ryan
Bill Ryan - 3 years ago
Corrupt test. You put weights forward for. 2016and 2017. And back for 2018. There is no distance gain in this club just accuratcy
THE GRIFF
THE GRIFF - 3 years ago
Sorry Neil....but these reviews are starting to make both you and golf monthly look a bit silly and lazy. We can't see either swing speeds or total distance on your numbers. And when you did a comparison of m1, epic, g400, 917...the m1 was going exactly the same distance as the m3 in this video
Scott Beresford
Scott Beresford - 3 years ago
What a surprise and I've got to be honest with you.....but everything you said confirms my suspicions that Golf Monthly have been well paid by TaylorMade for this video. What a load of rubbish fair play 6mph extra ball speed from no where..........now that all you need to say that this is the perfect driver for us all.
Chris Wiles
Chris Wiles - 3 years ago
Still nobody has shown strike! Ball speed jump smells a bit fishy to me.
SuperYoda7
SuperYoda7 - 3 years ago
Is this an honest opinion or just marketing? 10 yards is a lot!
SuperYoda7
SuperYoda7 - 3 years ago
The Rookie Mistake I have to agree with you. But maybe the clubs get more forgiving on of center hits. The right shafts and therefore the right launch and spin rates should make a big difference.
The Rookie Mistake - Mid Capper Struggles
The Rookie Mistake - Mid Capper Struggles - 3 years ago
All drivers are cor restricted (trampoline effect)to 0.830.
It’s just fitting that matters, different shafts do more than a club head
andy evans
andy evans - 3 years ago
marketing for sure... m3 is all about being more forgiving. even tm havent claimed its a longer club... and that guy could never hit a ball 290 carry
SuperYoda7
SuperYoda7 - 3 years ago
Is this an honest opinion or just marketing? 10 yards is a lot!
poo nose
poo nose - 3 years ago
terible title
kevin tee
kevin tee - 3 years ago
Very interesting surely its the person holding it together with their ability would the improvements be the same if a 18 handicapper were to do the same test don't thimk so. Please prove me wrong and lets see you use us handicaped golfers, after all we are the ones who will be buying them !
Tony Teeri
Tony Teeri - 3 years ago
Widest dispersion with the new M3...
Michael Song
Michael Song - 3 years ago
Show the club head speed and strike location
jonny clayton
jonny clayton - 3 years ago
Not buying it unless you show strike.
That was SAVAGE
That was SAVAGE - 3 years ago
That was SAVAGE
That was SAVAGE - 3 years ago
There is only so much a driver can do. Don’t be FOOLED joe public, lessons are the key to improving you’re distance.
That was SAVAGE
That was SAVAGE - 3 years ago
YourGirlfriend'sBoyfriend sssshhh woman back in ya kitchen
Scratch Golfer
Scratch Golfer - 3 years ago
In other words.... you have the "old one" lol.
Almdudler
Almdudler - 3 years ago
Move those weights back a bit and you will probably get closer numbers.. You had the second weight a bit back in the M3. Sorry, but this comes out as paid advertisement..
leeh2503
leeh2503 - 3 years ago
Could you do this for M2 M4 please
JoeBortz19
JoeBortz19 - 3 years ago
Probably getting less spin with the first two because you had the weights in the lowest possible setting for spin
Michael West
Michael West - 3 years ago
Yeah, launch angle was decently lower in the 2016 and 2017. I think he could achieve the same results by adjusting the weights accordingly, bringing them back for higher launch/spin.
Michael Ortner
Michael Ortner - 3 years ago
JoeBortz19 exactly! You can even see it in the descent angle, the total length would probably be the same because there is not a lot of roll left on the M3 with this setting! I put all my weights back on my 2016 M1, I prefer forgiveness and a higher carry distance with less roll! I thought the M3 copied the jailbreak technology and brings down the spin as Callaway, but it seem it’s more marketing than real change(otherwise it should have around the same spin rate at this setting I guess).
Jay Chung
Jay Chung - 3 years ago
Thx for doing this 3 way comparison. I’ve got the original M1 and didn’t expect to see such a difference. That was definitely a huge jump in distance for the M3. One interesting note though, it seemed like the misses on the M3 were slightly bigger, especially compared to 2017 M1. Funny since M3’s marketing angle is more about accuracy than distance but the results seem to show the reverse (I realize this is just a single test w/ a small sample size but still, interesting).
Michael West
Michael West - 3 years ago
Also, he could have adjusted the weights of the M1 for higher launch/spin, which he did not. The M1's had significant lower launch, effecting the carry and decent angle. I think they would be pretty much equal across the board.

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